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Converting PAYBACK Points to Miles and More

PAYBACK points become Miles and More miles one for one, from a balance of 200, by hand or on the March and September subscription.

A PAYBACK balance converts into Miles and More miles one point to one mile, and 200 points is the floor PAYBACK sets for starting one. The conversion itself carries no fee, which makes it the cheapest route from everyday spending to a flight, provided the miles are spent on something worth more than a voucher. The figures below were read from PAYBACK and Miles and More on 2026-10-01.

What the conversion pays

The ratio is one to one, so the question is not what a point is worth in euros but what the same point is worth redeemed directly. A PAYBACK point buys one cent at a terminal, so a balance converted at one to one is worth exactly the same before it reaches the airline. The airline is where the difference appears: the same mile spent on an award can be worth several times what it is worth on a voucher, and the size of that gap depends on the award, not on the conversion.

Two conditions sit on the conversion, and both are PAYBACK rules rather than estimates. A balance has to be at least 200 points, and a single transaction is capped at 999,999 points. The cap is per transaction, so a balance above it converts in more than one step.

The two ways to convert

A conversion can be started by hand from the PAYBACK account whenever the balance allows it. The subscription is the second route: it converts the balance by itself at the start of March and at the start of September, as long as the balance holds 200 points or more. The two dates are fixed by the programme, so a subscription suits a reader who collects steadily and does not want to watch the balance.

The choice between them is about timing rather than price. A manual conversion keeps the points in the PAYBACK account until they are wanted, which protects points that are close to the 36 month expiry. A subscription moves them on a fixed schedule, which suits a balance that would otherwise sit at a few hundred points and never be spent. Running both at once is not possible: the subscription converts the balance on its dates, so a manual conversion in the same window has nothing left to act on.

What the timing means

PAYBACK states that both the conversion and the visibility of the miles in the Miles and More account can take up to five working days. A balance emptied on a Friday can therefore still show as a positive figure in the Miles and More account the following week. This matters most at the two ends of the year, when an expiry date and a subscription date fall close together.

What happens to points that are never converted

PAYBACK points are valid for 36 months from the date they are credited. Points that run out expire on 30 September of the year after that period ends, so a point credited in October 2024 reaches its last day on 30 September 2027. Points within a year of that date are shown in the account, in the app and in the summaries, and expired points remain visible for a further three months, from 1 October to 31 December.

Two exemptions are stated. A customer who has a PAYBACK Visa or a PAYBACK American Express associated with the account is exempt from expiry while actively taking part in the programme. The exemption is tied to active participation, so a card that is held but never used does not on its own keep a balance alive. Nothing in the sources exempts a converted balance, which is the second reason the conversion is close to irreversible: the miles are subject to the Miles and More terms rather than the PAYBACK ones.

What the converted miles count towards

Miles and More states that converted PAYBACK points count towards the frequent flyer status. That is the one route by which a PAYBACK purchase reaches a status requirement, and it is worth weighing against a redemption, because status carries benefits that a single award does not. The rest of what a mile buys depends on the award chosen, which is covered under spending Miles and More miles, and on where the miles can be earned in the first place, covered under earning Miles and More miles.

What the sources do not settle

PAYBACK and Miles and More both describe the conversion as available whenever the 200 point floor is met, and neither publishes a limit on how many manual conversions a balance may take in a year. Whether a limit on manual conversions exists is not answered by the pages read on 2026-10-01, so it is left open here rather than guessed. The terms on both sides also leave open whether a converted balance can be reversed, which the sources describe in one direction only.

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Frequently asked questions

How many PAYBACK points does it take to get Miles and More miles?

Two hundred. PAYBACK converts a balance of 200 points or more into Miles and More miles at a ratio of one point to one mile, so the conversion costs nothing beyond the points themselves. The ratio was read from PAYBACK on 2026-10-01.

What is the smallest PAYBACK balance worth converting?

Two hundred points. PAYBACK sets 200 points as the floor for a conversion, so a balance below it stays in the PAYBACK account until more points arrive or the balance is spent instead. See [How PAYBACK points work](/en/payback/earn) for what the same points are worth when redeemed directly.

How many PAYBACK points can I convert in one go?

999,999 points per transaction. That is the ceiling PAYBACK states for a single conversion, and it is a ceiling per transaction rather than a limit on the total over time.

What is the PAYBACK Miles and More subscription?

It is an option in the PAYBACK account that converts the balance into miles by itself, twice a year, at the start of March and the start of September, as long as the balance is 200 points or more. It suits a reader who collects steadily and does not want to watch the balance.

Do I need the subscription to convert PAYBACK points?

No. The subscription only removes the dates. A conversion can also be started by hand from the PAYBACK account, and PAYBACK states no fee for it. The figure was read from PAYBACK on 2026-10-01 and applies to the conversion itself.

How long do Miles and More miles take to appear after a conversion?

Up to five working days. PAYBACK states that both the conversion and the visibility of the miles in the Miles and More account can take that long, so a balance emptied today can still be a positive Miles and More figure in the same week.

Can I convert PAYBACK points back into PAYBACK points again?

No. Once PAYBACK points have been converted into Miles and More miles the step is one way, and the miles then follow the Miles and More terms, including its own expiry and transfer rules. The two programmes are run by different companies and the miles are credited by the Miles and More operator.

Do converted miles count towards Miles and More status?

Yes. Miles and More states that converted PAYBACK points count towards the frequent flyer status, which is the one part of the conversion that reaches beyond the award itself. The rest depends on which award the miles are spent on, covered under [spending miles](/en/miles-and-more/spend).

What happens to PAYBACK points that are never converted?

They expire. PAYBACK points are valid for 36 months from the date they are credited, and points that run out expire on 30 September of the year that follows. Points within a year of that date are shown in the account, the app and the summaries, and expired points stay visible for a further three months.

Do PAYBACK points expire if I hold a PAYBACK credit card?

While the card is used and the account takes part in the programme, points are exempt from the 36 month expiry. PAYBACK states this for the PAYBACK Visa and the PAYBACK American Express. The exemption depends on active participation, so an unused account does not keep points alive on its own.